And I'm Rob. Now, Alice, what did you get up to at the weekend?
我是 罗伯。那么，爱丽丝，你周末都忙些什么呢？
Alice(爱丽丝)
I did some spring-cleaning, which means cleaning a place very well, especially places you don't clean often. So, I was tidying up my wardrobe, trying to organise things… and suddenly hundreds of shoes tumbled on my head!
Poor Alice! But why do you have so many shoes? And why do you keep them at the top of your wardrobe? I only have three pairs.
可怜的爱丽丝！但是为什么你有这么多鞋子呢？为什么你把它们放在衣橱的顶部呢？我只有三对。
Alice(爱丽丝)
I like to match my shoes to my outfit, and three pairs wouldn't do the trick. Well, the subject of today's show is having too much stuff. And you're making me feel guilty, Rob. You must have too much of something.
Yes, plastic bags. I think they're useful, but they're getting out of hand, and that means not under control. They're taking over my kitchen!
是的，塑料袋。我认为它们很有用，但它们正在失控，这意味着不受控制。他们要占领我的厨房了！
Alice(爱丽丝)
You can recycle plastic bags, you know, Rob?
你可以回收塑料袋，你知道吗，罗伯？
Rob(罗伯)
Well, you can recycle shoes too, you know, Alice!
嗯，你也可以回收鞋子，你知道的，爱丽丝！
Alice(爱丽丝)
Yes.
是的。
Rob(罗伯)
Now, usually I don't have a lot of clutter in my flat, and that means an untidy collection of objects. Clutter makes it harder to find the things you need. And it makes moving house a nightmare! All those boxes full of things you don't need…
Good point. I have a friend who suggested the three buckets system. You sort things into three different buckets: one you label as 'to keep', one as 'to get rid of', one as 'maybe to get rid of'. Get rid of, by the way, means to remove something you don't want. It's the 'maybe' bucket that's tricky, isn't it?, You never know if you might need something in the future.
说得好。我有一个朋友建议三桶系统。您将事物分为三个不同的类别：一个标记为“保留”，一个标记为“摆脱”，一个标记为“也许摆脱”。顺便说一句，get rid of 的意思是删除你不想要的东西。这是“可能”的桶很棘手，不是吗？，你永远不知道你将来是否需要一些东西。
Rob(罗伯)
Yes, it would need to be a big bucket too.
是的，它也需要一个大桶。
Alice(爱丽丝)
Yes, it would.
是的，它会的。
Rob(罗伯)
Well, l think we could all live better with less. OK, well, let's have today's quiz question before we talk more about decluttering our lives: So which word, Alice, means a belief that physical possessions are the most important thing in life? Is it… a) metaphysics? b) materialism? Or c) existentialism?
OK. Well, we'll find out if you got the answer right or wrong later on in the show. Now let's listen to Bea Johnson, author of Zero Waste Home talking about how she and her family have adopted a minimalist, or deliberately simple, lifestyle in their California home.
还行。好吧，我们稍后会在节目中找出您的答案是正确还是错误。现在让我们听听 Zero Waste Home 的作者 Bea Johnson 谈论她和她的家人如何在他们在加利福尼亚的家中采用极简主义或故意简单的生活方式。
Bea Johnson, minimalist and author of Zero Waste Home(BeaJohnson，极简主义者，《零浪费之家》的作者)
We've really asked ourselves 'what is it that we really need?' We've asked really true questions, and evaluated every single thing that we have. There is nothing that we overlooked. I even came to one day look at my vegetable peeler for example and asked myself, 'Do I really need that vegetable peeler'?
So one day Bea Johnson decided to evaluate, or to judge the importance of something, to see if she needed it.
所以有一天，Bea Johnson 决定评估或判断某件事的重要性，看看她是否需要它。
Alice(爱丽丝)
She evaluated her vegetable peeler and decided to put it in the 'get rid of' bucket!
她评估了她的蔬菜削皮器，并决定将其放入“扔掉”的桶中！
Rob(罗伯)
Yes, and to overlook something means not to see it. Now, I don't blame Bea at all because I don't like peeling vegetables either. And you could actually get the benefit of the vitamins and minerals by eating the skins.
We can really live with fewer things. But some people can't help looking for the latest version of something or go for designer goods. Writer and journalist James Wallman warns us about this. He wonders how much stuff is too much.
James Wallman, writer and journalist(詹姆斯·沃尔曼（JamesWallman），作家和记者)
This thing about need is such a dangerous term because what do you need? And I'm not anti-stuff, stuff is good. I'm anti too much stuff and I'm anti the wrong stuff. Don't go out and buy that labelled good that you think is going to make people think something more of you. That's not going to make you happy.
James Wallman there. Now, Alice, do you buy labelled goods?
詹姆斯·沃尔曼 （James Wallman） 在那里。现在，爱丽丝，你买贴标签的商品吗？
Alice(爱丽丝)
I'm afraid I do. And labelled goods or products are the ones with a famous brand name, like Gucci, Dior, Prada etc. But I do think James Wallman is right, buying things just because other people have them, for example, doesn't make us happy.
恐怕我是这样想的。贴有标签的商品或产品是带有知名品牌的商品或产品，如 Gucci、Dior、Prada 等。但我确实认为 James Wallman 是对的，例如，仅仅因为别人拥有东西就买东西并不会让我们快乐。
Rob(罗伯)
Yeah, that's true, but as he says, not everything is the wrong stuff. For example, I'm very fond of my large schoolboy collection of superhero comics. I might not need them, but they make me happy. So what stuff makes you happy, Alice?
Oh, well, I like my music CDs and my books, even though I've got the music on an mp3 player and I don't often pull a book out from the bookcase.
哦，好吧，我喜欢我的音乐 CD 和我的书，尽管我把音乐放在 mp3 播放器上，而且我不经常从书柜里拿出一本书。
Rob(罗伯)
They have sentimental value, don't they?
他们有情感价值，不是吗？
Alice(爱丽丝)
Yes.
是的。
Rob(罗伯)
And that means the importance of something because of a personal or emotional feeling that we attach to it. Well, I sold all my music CDs online ages ago.
That sounds like the sensible thing to do. OK, I think it's time for the answer to today's quiz question, Rob.
这听起来是明智的做法。好的，我认为是时候回答今天的测验问题了，罗伯。
Rob(罗伯)
Yes, I asked you: Which word means a belief that physical possessions are the most important thing in life? Is it… a) metaphysics, b) materialism or c) existentialism?
And you were right, Alice! Well done! The answer is indeed b) materialism. This is the word used to refer to a desire for material things and wealth and little or no interest in ethical values. Now, can we hear the words we learned today please, Alice?
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