A. So we were talking about learner types earlier and I actually think I havemy own little diagram for motivational types.
我们之前谈过学习者的类型，实际上我自己按照动机对学习者进行了分类。
B: Motivation types, okay, that's interesting because I need a handle onmotivation.
动机类型，好，这很有意思，因为我需要处理动机问题。
A: So basically I think there's four types of students. I always get fourtypes of students. They're either a player.
总的来说，我认为有四种学生。我接触到的学生有四种。第一种是竞争者。
B: A player.
竞争者。
A: A pupil, a participant, or a prisoner.
然后分别是学生、参与者和囚禁者。
B: A prisoner, a player, a pupil, a participant or a prisoner, okay.
囚禁者，竞争者，学生，参与者，好。
A: Yeah, easy to remember, all P's.
很容易记，都是P开头的单词。
B: All P's, yeah, good system.
都是P开关的单词，嗯，不错的体系。
A: Okay. So a player is a student who loves a subject matter, they study iton their own, even if there wasn't class they would still study it.
好。玩家是指喜欢一个科目，他们会自己进行研究，即使不是课程，他们也会进行研究。
B: Okay. Like a natural in a subject maybe?
好。就是很自然地喜欢一个科目?
A: It could be natural or like, you know, because we teach English, it wouldbe like a student that loves English, learns English on their own, maybe wentand studied overseas. And they're always improving and they kind of take classjust to reinforce what they're already learning. But they actually don't likeclass usually. Often they don't like homework, they don't like tests, they don'tlike things that really judge their ability. They just want to keep learning andjust being around the subject, that's why they're a player, they just want toplay. And it would be like if you played a sport, it would be like an athletewho doesn't really want to practice, he just wants to play.
B: Someone who does it just for the sheer enjoyment?
只是为了纯粹的享受?
A: Right. They just want to do it for the enjoyment and for the end result,like they do it and they don't need really someone telling them how good theyare. Now, on the flipside you have a pupil. And a pupil would be somebody wholoves class, they're a teacher's pet.
B: And gets pleasure from studying and the teacher knowing that they'vestudied and a swot.
他们从学习中得到快乐，老师知道他们在学习，所以他们是书呆子。
A: Exactly. A swot, there you go, a new word for me. Not a P, but yeah. Theywant to sit in the front row, they want to get good grades, they want to standout. But maybe they actually don't love the subject matter that much, they wantto do that at every class.
B: They like being good at it regardless of what it is.
不管是什么，他们都希望做到最好。
A: Exactly. Exactly. So those are usually the two best students you have,right. You're going to have players who love the subject and pupils who lovebeing a good student.
对，没错。这是两种最优秀的学生。一种是喜欢研究科目的玩家，一种是想成为好学生的学生。
B: And swots.
书呆子。
A: And swots. And then in the system there's two more. So there's alsoparticipants. Now, a participant, they love class but they don't love in the waythat a pupil loves class. A participant just loves being with their friends.They love the social aspect of class. They love seeing people they know, theylove talking. They love being in a group. And it really doesn't matter what thesubject is.
A: Like I think in college I was often a participant, like I would take aclass because my friends took the class. So yeah, that's basically, that's aparticipant.
我认为我在大学时就是参与者，我去上课是因为我朋友们都去了。可以说，这就是参与者。
B: Okay, class is time to hang out with your friends.
好，课堂是和朋友们一起玩的时间。
A: Exactly, social outlet.
没说，社交圈。
B: Do you think they even know what subject it is that they're...
你认为他们知道他们在学什么吗?
A: Yeah, maybe they don't even care, and exactly, you could change thesubject on them, like you know, hey, we're going to do German and they would belike, "Hey, that's cool, as long as we're still together."
A: Yeah, the last one is the sad one, the prisoner.
最后一种类型很可怜，是囚禁者。
B: The fourth, like the prisoner, that sounds a little bit scary.
第四种就像囚犯一样，听起来有点可怕。
A: Yeah. The prisoner, the poor prisoner. The prisoner is basically societysays they have to take this class. Some authority said, "You have to take theclass, you have no choice." It could be the government, it could be theirmother, it could be their university curriculum.
B: So there's like a mandatory subject that they don't really want to do?
类似必修课，可是他们并不想上这门课?
A: Exactly. If they had the choice to opt out, they would opt out in aheartbeat. If you said, "Hey, you know what, if you want you do not have to takethis class, you do not have to show up every day, everything's fine, it's cool."They wouldn't show up. So basically they're a prisoner, you know. And a prisonerdoesn't actually mean that they're a bad student. They could actually be an Astudent, and it doesn't mean that they have a bad attitude, they could be verypolite, but they just ... they really don't want to take that subject, they'restuck doing it and there's just no getting out of it.
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