John: So I was wondering about disciplining kids in public. You have kids, right?
约翰:我想知道在公共场所如何管教孩子。你有孩子,对吧?
Sarah: Yeah. I have two kids. I have a three-year old and a one-year old.
萨拉:对,我有两个孩子。一个三岁,另一个一岁。
John: Are they ever naughty when you're out in public?
约翰:你们在公共场所时,孩子们淘气吗?
Sarah: Yes. They are naughty out in public. And I think that you shouldn't discipline yourchildren in front of other people. So if I'm out in public and my three-year old starts to benaughty and she's crying because she wants a toy from the store or something, I will pick herup and I take her somewhere quiet until she's calm. Like I might take her to the familybathroom or a quiet hallway, so she can stop crying and stop making noise.
John: I see. So you wouldn't just give her the toy she wants.
约翰:我明白了。你不会给她买她想要的玩具。
Sarah: No. I don't think you should do that sort of thing to make your child be quiet, just givethem something until they are quiet because then they'll be bad more in the future. If theyknow they can cry and scream, and mom and dad will give them what they want, they'll just beworse and worse.
John: Oh, I see. They'll learn that it's okay. They can get what they want by crying.
约翰:我明白了。他们会认为那样做没问题。他们可以通过哭闹来得到想要的东西。
Sarah: Yeah.
萨拉:对。
John: But don't you think you'll – won't you lose more time if you have to take your kids tosome quiet place to calm down?
约翰:但是你不认为,如果你把孩子带去安静的地方,让他们冷静下来,这样会花费更多时间吗?
Sarah: Yeah. You lose time but I think it's worth it because I think of the future and the time I'llsave by making sure that my child is better behaved in the future. And the other thing too is I'malways trying to think about other people. So I don't want other people to have to listen to mychild scream and cry. And I also don't want them to see me talking sternly to her becausethey'll maybe be annoyed or feel uncomfortable. And maybe my child will scream morebecause she can feel that. So I try to go somewhere quiet.
Sarah: Sometimes that's impossible though. Sometimes, if you're on the plane or on a train, you can't go anywhere or do anything. You have to stay in your seat.
John: What if you're on an airplane, then do you give your child whatever they are crying foras soon as possible?
约翰:那如果你在飞机上的时候,你的孩子哭闹,那你会马上把他们想要的东西给他们吗?
Sarah: Yes, I do. I try to plan ahead and I think, okay, I need to have enough toys. I need tohave lots of snacks, lots of fun things so that I prevent them from becoming naughty or cryingor screaming. But sometimes, you can't help it. And if you're child or baby starts to be loud atthat point, I will. I'll give them candy or food or toy, whatever they want.
John: Oh, I get it. So I think you're saying, you think there might be a different reason why kidsbecome naughty. Besides what they want...
约翰:哦,我知道了。我想你的意思是,孩子淘气有不同的原因。除了他们想要一些东西以外……
Sarah: Yeah.
萨拉:对。
John: For example, they're hungry or bored.
约翰:比如,他们可能饿了或是感到无聊。
Sarah: Yeah. I think a lot of the times, children are naughty because maybe they're tired orthey're hungry, or they want to play and stretch their legs but they can't because they're on theplane or they're in a stroller at the shopping mall.
John: So instead of waiting for bad behavior and then doing some discipline like yelling atyour kids or grabbing their arms, maybe it's better to prevent bad behavior by making sure thekids sleep enough and don't get bored.
Sarah: Yeah. That's what I'm saying. And, you know, my kids are young. Just three and one. So a one-year old can't really be naughty. They're just a baby. So if they need something, Igive them food or what they need. But a three-year old, they can throw a tantrum. And so, they can be very naughty.
Sarah: Yeah. When they scream and maybe they fall down on the floor, and they kick theirlegs. Sometimes they try to hit you. It's really bad. But I think all two-and-three-year-oldchildren sometimes they do them.