So, Catherine, how long do you spend on your smartphone?
那么，Catherine，你在智能手机上花了多长时间呢？
Catherine(凯瑟 琳)
My smartphone? Not that long really, only about 18 or 19 hours.
我的智能手机？真的没那么长，只有大约 18 或 19 小时。
Rob(罗伯)
No, sorry, I meant in a day, not in a week.
不，对不起，我是说一天，而不是一周。
Catherine(凯瑟 琳)
Er, that's what I meant too, Rob – a day.
呃，我也是这个意思，罗伯 – 一天。
Rob(罗伯)
Oh wow, so you’ve even got it right here…
哦，哇，所以你甚至就在这里......
Catherine(凯瑟 琳)
…yep, got it now, Rob. Yes, I should tell you that I suffer from FOMO.
…是的，现在明白了，罗伯。是的，我应该告诉你，我患有 FOMO。
Rob(罗伯)
FOMO?
FOMO？
Catherine(凯瑟 琳)
FOMO - Fear of Missing Out. Something cool or interesting might be happening somewhere, Rob, and I want to be sure I catch it, so I have to keep checking my phone, to make sure, you know, I don’t miss out on anything.
It sounds like you have a bit of a problem there, Catherine. But you’re not the only one. According to one recent survey, half of teenagers in the USA feel like they are addicted to their mobile phones. If you are addicted to something, you have a physical or mental need to keep on doing it. You can’t stop doing it. You often hear about people being addicted to drugs or alcohol, but you can be addicted to other things too, like mobile phones. So, Catherine, do you think you’re addicted to your phone? How long could you go without it? Catherine? Catherine!
Sorry, Rob, yes, well I think if I went more than a minute, I'd probably get sort of sweaty palms and I think I'd start feeling a bit panicky.
对不起，罗伯，是的，我想如果我走得超过一分钟，我的手心可能会出汗，我想我会开始感到有点恐慌。
Rob(罗伯)
Oh dear! Well, if I can distract you for a few minutes, can we look at this topic in more detail please? Let's start with a quiz question first though. In what year did the term ‘smartphone’ first appear in print? Was it: a) 1995; b) 2000 c) 2005 What do you think?
No, no, that would be cheating – for you – maybe not for the listeners.
不，不，那会是作弊 —— 对你来说 —— 也许对听众来说不是。
Catherine(凯瑟 琳)
Spoilsport.
剧透。
Rob(罗伯)
Right, Jean Twenge is a psychologist who has written about the damage she feels smartphones are doing to society. She has written that smartphones have probably led to an increase in mental health problems for teenagers. We’re going to hear from her now, speaking to the BBC. What does she say is one of the dangers of using our phones?
是的，Jean Twenge 是一位心理学家，她写过关于她认为智能手机对社会造成的损害的文章。她写道，智能手机可能导致青少年心理健康问题的增加。我们现在要听听她对 BBC 的采访。她说使用我们手机的危险之一是什么？
Jean Twenge, psychologist and author(Jean Twenge，心理学家和作家)
I think everybody’s had that experience of reading their news feed too much, compulsively checking your phone if you’re waiting for a text or getting really into social media then kind of, looking up and realising that an hour has passed.
Well, she said that we can get so involved in our phones that we don’t notice the time passing and when we finally look up, we realise that maybe an hour has gone. And I must say, I find that to be true for me, especially when I'm watching videos online. They pull you in with more and more videos and I’ve spent ages just getting lost in video after video.
Well that's not a problem if you're looking at our YouTube site, of course - there's lots to see there.
好吧，如果您正在查看我们的 YouTube 网站，那当然不是问题 - 那里有很多值得一看的地方。
Catherine(凯瑟 琳)
Yes, BBC Learning English, no problem. You can watch as many as you like.
是的，BBC Learning English，没问题。您可以观看任意数量的视频。
Rob(罗伯)
Well, she talks about checking our phones compulsively. If you do something compulsively you can’t really control it - it’s a feature of being addicted to something, you feel you have to do it again and again. Some tech companies, though, are now looking at building in timers to apps which will warn us when we have spent too long on them. Does Jean Twenge think this will be a good idea?
Jean Twenge, psychologist and author(Jean Twenge，心理学家和作家)
It might mean that people look at social media less frequently and that they do what it really should be used for, which is to keep in touch with people but then put it away and go see some of those people in person or give them a phone call.
Well, she doesn’t say so directly, but we can guess from her answer that she does, because she says these timers will make people spend more time in face-to-face interaction, which a lot of people think would be a good thing.
Yes, she said we should be using it for keeping in touch with people - which means contacting people, communicating with them and also encouraging us to do that communication in person. If you do something in person then you physically do it – you go somewhere yourself or see someone yourself, you don’t do it online or through your smartphone, which nicely brings us back to our quiz question. When was the term smartphone first used in print - 1995, 2000 or 2005? What did you say, Catherine?
OK, we had FOMO, an acronym that means 'Fear of Missing Out'. Something that I get quite a lot.
好的，我们有 FOMO，一个首字母缩写词，意思是“害怕错过”。我得到了很多东西。
Rob(罗伯)
And that makes you also a phubber - people who ignore the real people around them because they are concentrating on their phones.
这也使你成为一个笨蛋 - 那些因为专注于手机而忽视周围真实人的人。
Catherine(凯瑟 琳)
Yes, I do think I’m probably addicted to my phone. I have a psychological and physical need to have it. My smartphone is my drug.
是的，我确实认为我可能沉迷于我的手机。我有心理和生理上的需求。我的智能手机就是我的药物。
Rob(罗伯)
Wow, and you look at it compulsively. You can’t stop looking at it, you do it again and again, don't you?
哇，你不由自主地看着它。你不能不停地看着它，你一次又一次地这样做，不是吗？
Catherine(凯瑟 琳)
It's sadly true, Rob. To keep in touch with someone is to contact them and share your news regularly.
这是可悲的事实，罗伯。与某人保持联系就是定期联系他们并分享您的新闻。
Rob(罗伯)
And if you do that yourself by actually meeting them, then you are doing it in person. And that brings us to the end of today’s programme. Don’t forget you can find us on the usual social media platforms – Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and YouTube - and on our website at bbclearningenglish.com. Bye for now.
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